Dr Art Raiche, retired CSIRO Chief Research Scientist, on scientists’ independence.

ASEG Gold Medal recipient in 2006, “For exceptional and highly significant distinguished contributions to the science and practice of geophysics…”
Principal scientists contractor to CSIRO in the geophysical Electromagnetic Modelling Group for exploration and environmental applications.

Dr Raiche talked of the days when the CSIRO was a world class organisation and worked for Australia, Agriculture and Industry.  Skip to 8mins into it for the best bits if you  haven’t got time, where he says:

The original Scientists of the CSIRO were the best of their day and the CSIRO was a non-Government organisation working with quality science and how useful it was to Australia. (research)

In the 80′s, I noticed we were under increasing pressure to become more “Business like” and the doors were opened to “Management Consultation.”

Layer upon layer of management was created, some intersecting others.

You think that your tax dollars went towards research but a lot of it was devoted to letting them play their management games…. the CSIRO was sent to fancy business schools in the US and Europe and they didn’t learn one thing…

Management learned how to bring the most senior climate scientist under their control. It was OK to think independently…as long as Management approved of it.

We were given very strict, VERY strict guidelines on not publishing anything or publicly discussing any research that could be seen as critical to Government policy.If we did not do it, we would be subject to dismissal.

We had now become a Government Enterprise. We were told by the Chairperson that we Scientists no longer worked for Australia, we had to learn that we worked for the CSIRO.

(Thanks to JOSKO for above comment and quote)

Address was at No Carbon Tax Rally, Canberra, 16 August 2011

Film courtesy of Phil Cole

10 comments to Dr Art Raiche, retired CSIRO Chief Research Scientist, on scientists’ independence.

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  • will gray

    Hi would love a debate between Professor Will Stephen nd Dr Art Raiche.
    Maybe we could other Will lots of cash.
    Lets start a ‘pledge’ collection see how much $$$ he goes for!

  • Frank

    Thanks for uploading this. I watched Dr Raiche speak on SkyNews and thought what he said was riveting – before the transmission got cut by SkyNews when he got to the good part. Great to see it again unedited.

    Considering that Gillard once asked the rhetorical question of “Who would you rather listen to, Alan Jones and Andrew Bolt or the CSIRO?”, I think Dr Art Raiche paints a very different and unique picture of our once great scientific institution that will deeply embarrass them. Bravo to courageous people like Raiche for having the courage to speak out and shed some light on a body that gets very little exposure or scrutiny in the mainstream media. It makes you wonder if he’s right about the media and government in collusion? “Follow the Money” indeed.

  • Mike Fuller

    Thanks for making this available it is greatly appreciated. I was at the rally and heard Art speak but having a recording of the detail of what he said gives me an understanding of what happen to the CSIRO. He is to be congratulated for speaking out.

  • will gray

    Hi I would jump at the chance to witness a debate between Professor Will Stephen and Dr Art Raiche.
    Maybe we could bribe Will with upfront cash payment.
    Lets start a ‘pledge’ collection.

    Hm that better.

  • Ray

    Sadly, thanks to the politicisation of CSIRO management and scientists, the ethics, credibility and professionalism of the CSIRO have gone.

    Given that the CSIRO now claims that climate science is settled, all related future Government funding to CSIRO should be terminated forthwith.

  • peter brewster

    Dr Raiche is a great member of the true great scientific community, a wonderful Australian and a brave man. I heard his address in Canberra .

  • Mark

    Art’s right about CSIRO, but wrong about climate change.

    The managementese ran through CSIRO something awful in the 1980s. People may blame this on government, but actually the business managers who flooded in were enabled to be there by CSIRO trying to be a half-private free-enterprise business offering research for hire. Given that you are signing contracts to work on outside companies’ problems, all of a sudden everything becomes commercial-in-confidence. So you can’t speak about it. Openess vanishes. The managers were firmly in control. Art chafed under this regime – he hated it. It really wasn’t all that nice in there. Morale plummetted. It hurt to see the business side prosper while you couldn’t buy any equipment.

    Don’t know how you’d rejunvenate CSIRO, but I would start by returning it fully to government funding.

    There’s no evidence that official CSIRO requires research to support the general consensus.

    In USA on the other hand, the Bush White House did act to suppress scientific reports. The old oil men wanted to downplay global warming. The term “climate change” was invented by them as a less threatening substitute. Spin, in other words! We are so used to “climate change” we’ve forgotten where it came from.

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